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Hmm, tak se zda, ze LHC pripravuje vlastni Computer Grid: LHC Computing Project (LCG), a o BOINC jsem tam nenasel zadnou zminku. Kdyz se podivate na stranku Planning a nektere ty PDF dokumenty, tak je videt, ze na tom maka dost velky tym lidi a, ze asi maji o hodne jiny budget, nez BOINC. To planovani bezi uz od roku 2001, ale zatim jsem to moc nestudoval podrobne, takze mi neni jasne, jestli je cely ten humbuk a ty tuny dokumentu jen cira teorie, nebo jestli uz jim neco konkretne funguje. Podle toho, ze vyuzivaji BOINC, pocitam, ze to asi zase moc dobre neprobiha.
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No uvidime ako to dopadne, kazdopadne kolos ako CERN potrebuje viac ako Boinc.
V clanku z CERN bulletinu z minuleho roka (marec 2005) som nasiel nasledujucu pasaz, ktora by mohla trocha osvetlovat preco vyvijaju aj nieco popri Boinci - jeenoducho chcu mat nieco vlastne, pretoze Boinc sa da pouzit len na niektore typy vypovtov, ale CERN potrebuje mat silny computing network aj na ine veci ako napr. priama analyza vystupnych dat z experimentov, ktora je extremne narocna nielen na CPU vykon ale najma na toky a prenosy dat a Boinc ju preto nemoze robit. Je to presne to co som uz zoparkrat tu na fore spominal - Boinc je fajn na niektore predbezne ci ciastkove analyzy/vypocty, ale nie na analyzu toho co LHC po spusteni bude produkovat ako hlavny vedecky output. Pravdepodobne ale aj po spusteni LHC bude Boinc stale vyuzivany na ine vhodne ulohy z oblasti fyziky vysokych energii.
Spominany citat znie:
Compared with Grid computing, public resource computing such as LHC@home is a useful complementary approach. It has intrinsic limitations set by the bandwidth and storage capacity of remote private PCs. But for problems that can be adapted to this mode of operation, it provides huge and essentially free computing resources. Development of LHC@home is set to continue this year, and will include investigating the possibility of building a bridge between LCG and BOINC, as well as evaluating other high energy physics applications suitable for public resource computing.
V clanku z CERN bulletinu z minuleho roka (marec 2005) som nasiel nasledujucu pasaz, ktora by mohla trocha osvetlovat preco vyvijaju aj nieco popri Boinci - jeenoducho chcu mat nieco vlastne, pretoze Boinc sa da pouzit len na niektore typy vypovtov, ale CERN potrebuje mat silny computing network aj na ine veci ako napr. priama analyza vystupnych dat z experimentov, ktora je extremne narocna nielen na CPU vykon ale najma na toky a prenosy dat a Boinc ju preto nemoze robit. Je to presne to co som uz zoparkrat tu na fore spominal - Boinc je fajn na niektore predbezne ci ciastkove analyzy/vypocty, ale nie na analyzu toho co LHC po spusteni bude produkovat ako hlavny vedecky output. Pravdepodobne ale aj po spusteni LHC bude Boinc stale vyuzivany na ine vhodne ulohy z oblasti fyziky vysokych energii.
Spominany citat znie:
Compared with Grid computing, public resource computing such as LHC@home is a useful complementary approach. It has intrinsic limitations set by the bandwidth and storage capacity of remote private PCs. But for problems that can be adapted to this mode of operation, it provides huge and essentially free computing resources. Development of LHC@home is set to continue this year, and will include investigating the possibility of building a bridge between LCG and BOINC, as well as evaluating other high energy physics applications suitable for public resource computing.
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Is it by logic that we prove, but by intuition that we discover. [J. H. Poincaré, mathematician (1854-1912)]
Is it by logic that we prove, but by intuition that we discover. [J. H. Poincaré, mathematician (1854-1912)]
